The True Woman '08 conference was held last weekend in Chicago, and WOW, have you listened to Mary Kassian's session on Feminism yet? If not, well then WHAT are you waiting for? :-) She gives a phenomenally accurate and insightful (and relatively quick) overview of how feminism's lies have affected and infected marriage, womanhood, and culture. Click on the link and let it play while you fold a load of laundry... it's very interesting and certainly worth your time! Enjoy!
p.s. Here's a short interview with Mary Kassian to whet your appetite.
Fantastic. Informative and refreshing. Thanks for sharing :)
ReplyDeleteYES! I loved this. I was glued to my computer all last weekend watching the conference.
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I was there!!!! Honestly I am overwhelmed with all of the fantastic speakers/messages I heard. I am still trying to unpack it all. Mary Kassian's main session really got me to think. As did Janet Parshall (if they have her breakout session online I would HIGHLY recommend it!).
ReplyDeleteIt's funny when I was at the conference I thought "I bet Jess would blog about this if she were here". LOL, you did anyway :)
Great message. Thanks for linking to it. I enjoyed it.
ReplyDeleteOh yay!!! I'm off to listen to it now! Being down here so far from home (and never getting to sit in church service and just listen) makes me crave listening to speakers/pastors on the internet! Thank you!
ReplyDeleteYou realize that the Christian movement's near-total embrace of Sarah Palin has discredited the Christian anti-feminist message, don't you?
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This is probably the only thing Doug Phillips and I agree on. You can't apply one set of standards for the little people and then promote Sarah Palin as a great mother and role model. (I recognize that you haven't, but a lot of people in the evangelical movement have been enthusiastically praising her.)
Laurie B
Laurie,
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that what you're seeing is various strands of Christian thought-- some that are decidedly anti-feminist & Christian, and some that have tried to combine the two, and some that don't know how to respond. Many Christians (myself included) have been so educated and reared in a subtly feminist mindset that it is difficult to even identify that as a separate "strain" in our minds.
I think, too, for my part, that it's entirely different for me to have personal convictions about my own life and our family's following after Christ than for me to place that standard and constraint on every other Christian woman. To put it in different terms... eight and four years ago, no one that I can recall lauded President Bush as being the ideal Christian man, nor did anyone expect him to be. Now, all of a sudden, because there's a woman in consideration by Christians, we're suddenly expected to hold her to the standard of being everything we ourselves feel convicted about?
I confess, I don't get it. I don't think there's a hypocrisy in saying, "these are my convictions, but I'll not hold everyone else to these same convictions." I think it's the tension and freedom we find in Romans.
And I'm not saying all of this in defense of Palin. I'm just saying I don't get all the vitriolic anti-Palin noise from Christians. Even if you disagree with her "brand" of Christianity, did you fully agree with Reagan's; was he the consummate Christian man? Or Bush the elder? Why are we suddenly expecting this (being the ideal picture of all of our own convictions and beliefs) of our leaders?
These are my general thoughts on the matter, Laurie. I think when one understands Romans 14, it doesn't have to be an either/or. I can have my own personal standards or convictions and still not expect that everyone else will see every single thing the same. Or live out their Christian lives in the exact same ways.
~Jess
Can I listen to this while I organize work papers? Or will it spontaneously shut down? ;-)
ReplyDeleteSeriously Jess, I think we might not agree on lots of issues, but I absolutely love your blog. Keep it up!
I haven't finished reading all of this, but so far it's very enlightening. Some of the stuff I knew, but looking back over my own childhood and adolescence I see this thread of subtle indoctrination that has taken a lot of hearfelt prayer to undo. Still trying to peice things together day by day in light of scripture and our Holy Father.
ReplyDeleteSometimes it feels as though the first 24 years of my life I was living in a fog and then the day I said yes to Jesus things started to become more clear like a poloroid gradually developing.
-Jen K.
I really enjoyed this message! (It took me a while to find time to listen uninterrupted) I think it is a great "Effects of Feminism 101" course for those who have not thought about such things. Just as I had not thought about them 5 years ago. And I agree with you--growing up when I did--it's very hard for me to recognize (it's getting easier) feminist thinking. This, and the documentary "Demographic Winter" that I also watched this week REALLY show the affects of feminism and just how wide-spread the affects have been.
ReplyDeleteI was at the conference and all of it was WONDERFUL! Glad you enjoyed it thx to the cyber world!! May God use it to raise up True Women for His glory.
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